The “Why don’t we ever write anything bad about the Clintons?” blog.

Posted: October 12, 2016 in Political musings, Popular Culture et al
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We do. It’s just those who love to Lord it over us like to claim we never do.

There is little doubt that Donald Trump cheerfully boasting about having assaulted women – which when questioned about in the second debate he then denied – was a new low for American politics.

But let us consider the Clintons. Pace disputing the fine details claimed by the women produced by Trump to damage the Clintons, in the broad brushstroke view of history no one could pretend that Bill Clinton was (and for all we know, still is) anything other than what Australians call “a pants man”. Sexually highly active outside of his marriage, which fact he repeatedly denied until he could no longer get away with it.

Whether he is a rapist is more difficult to prove, simply because nothing has ever been proved, and anythign we might say or think, or indeed what anyone might say or think other than a jury hearing evidence, would be pure speculation.

Equally, despite claims to the contrary, no-one has ever proven Hillary’s role in “persecuting” the women seeking retribution for Bill wronging them. Indeed, in the Juanita Broaddrick case the investigators going after Clinton to impeach him specifically found that there had not been pressure on her to retract. Yet she says there has been, over the years.

The truth in the high-profile cases that Trump re-introduced into the debate is even harder to discern, given that some of those now accusing Bill Clinton are clearly partisan, and right wing.

Then again, had they been assaulted or raped, well, they would be very vocal in their opposition to him, and by implication his wife, wouldn’t they? We also know that victims of assault frequently offer confused or contradictory stories of their experiences, reflecting the intense psychological pressure they are under. Any understanding of their testimony needs to take that into account.

What can be said for certain about Bill Clinton is that he used the highest office in the land to seduce an impressionable young woman when the very slightest regard for moral norms should have told him not to. And even having done so, he should have re-considered.

He then denied it until he had no choice but to admit his wrongdoing, using weasel words like “I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky.”. From where we come from, clearly what Lewinsky and Clinton did was “sex”. His attempt to deny her in this wise was reprehensible.

Whatever else Bill Clinton is, he is no gentleman.

Some of the criticisms made of Mrs Clinton are patently ridiculous.

In the very sad case of the rape of the 12 year old girl, Kathy Shelton, Clinton has been repeatedly criticised for “putting her through hell” and “laughing about the case afterwards”. In fact, as can be read here, the truth is very different. After trying to avoid taking the case, Clinton did her job as a court-appointed defender for a thoroughly unpleasant offender, and her laughter was regarding the unreliability of polygraph testing.

People conveniently forget that in the adversarial court system employed in the States Clinton had a legal responsibility to mount the strongest possible defence for her client, or face sanctions herself. That the defending counsel in rape cases often have to blacken – or at least question – the character of rape and assault victims is a crying shame in many jurisdictions in the world. Nevertheless, Clinton was only doing her job.

A fact the victim acknowledged publicly: Shelton told a Newsday reporter in 2007 that she bore no ill will toward Clinton. “I have to understand that she was representing Taylor,” she said. “I’m sure Hillary was just doing her job.” Later, she changed her mind, having heard the tape of Clinton discussing the case.

Meanwhile, sexual scandals in America (and elsewhere) are a fact of life, crossing all political boundaries. Former Vice president Al Gore is now accused of demanding sexual favours from massage therapists – so-called “happy endings”. This interesting Wikipedia article shows just how common sex scandals – straight and gay – in the Federal political sphere in America are. And it’s not like the rest of the world is any different.

The list is long and miserable. So what is really going on here?

Let us try and take the politics out of this, for a moment.

There is little doubt, as has often been claimed, that power is an aphrodisiac. People in powerful positions – in business and in politics especially – are undoubtedly sexual targets for many people, just as a seemingly inevitable expression of their powerful character and position may be their own sexual wanton-ness.

The number of stories one hears whispered sotto voce from “the corridors of power” of the enthusiastic sexual excess or adultery of men and women of all kinds far outweigh whatever stories actually become public. In many cases, journalists actively connive in keeping the tales private, because they consider them to be nobody’s business but the participants, except when the behaviour has other implications. (Like the Profumo affair, for example.) And in many cases, journalists keep the stories “spiked” because they are participants.

The cliche of the “boss” sleeping with their personal assistant is a cliche simply because it happens so often. And an air of sexual innuendo and availability permeates political parties, in particular, and has been the cause of many women bemoaning the fact that their advancement seems to rely on being willing sexual partners to men whose advances they have no interest in receiving.

Mix both situations with alcohol – or being in a location away from home – and the effect is magnified.

Or to put it another way, it seems hardly surprising that sexual scandal seems the norm, rather than the exception, especially in an era when the ties of marriage seem somewhat looser than in the past.

But if sexual hi-jinks are the “new normal”, then what are the rules governing that brave new world?

It is surely clear that the first and primary focus of everyone must be on confirmed assent. And because many women, in particular, feel pressured into sexual behaviour that they are not entirely comfortable with – or at all comfortable with – then the nature of that consent needs to be explicit and unambiguous.

At its most simple, men simply have to ask, out loud, “Is it OK with you if I/we do this?”, and also to be aware that apparent consent (such as a bashful or embarrassed “Yes”) may in fact be a sign of really being a “No”, as may be physical body-language indicators such as looking down or away, physical rigidity, and so on.

Even more complex is that sexual activity is a continuum, not a moment in time, and what might have been acceptable at one point in the exchange becomes unacceptable further on because one of the partners changes their mind.

It sounds like a minefield, and it is, but after all – if both parties to a sexual tryst are jointly and equally excited about the prospect, it’s pretty damned obvious, isn’t it? So at any given moment, if a man senses no matter how fleetingly that the woman may be unhappy with the situation, and we are talking primarily about male-female sex here, they are surely duty bound to articulate the question above, and listen hard to the answer, on all levels, even if it’s been asked previously. Similarly, one episode of sexual consent does not necessarily predicate a future one.

So far so good. None of which, though, would have applied in the case of Monica Lewinksy and Bill Clinton, where Lewinsky was clearly infatuated with the older man.

Lewinsky candidly said:

“I fell in love with my boss in a 22-year-old sort of a way,” she told a summit organised by the business magazine Forbes. “But my boss was the President of the United States. In 1995 we started an affair that lasted, on and off, for two years. And at that time, it was my everything. That, I guess you could say, was the golden bubble part for me; the nice part. The nasty part was that it became public.”

Should Bill Clinton have resisted the charms of Ms Lewinsky, as they were a betrayal of his marriage, his office, and also taking advantage of her naivitee? Undoubtedly. On the other hand, they were both consenting adults, and until the matter became public, contentedly so.

But Lewinsky also went on to say, in May this year, responding to a partial transcript of a late-1990s phone conversation in which Mrs Clinton called her a “narcissistic loony toon”, “Hillary Clinton wanted it on record that she was lashing out at her husband’s mistress. She may have faulted her husband for being inappropriate, but I find her impulse to blame the Woman – not only me, but herself – troubling.”

We agree. Clinton could choose to excuse or defend or overlook her husband’s infidelities – many marriages survive infidelity for all sorts of reasons, indeed, some become stronger – but without demeaning the character of his lover.

Anyhow: taken all in all, it is a sorry history. No side comes out of it with any honour.

Perhaps all we can hope for is that current and future generations will eschew power-oriented sexual behaviour entirely, and become much more adept at handling sexual matters in a more equal and sensible manner. Starting right now, we hope.

And as for the Clintons? No, they’re not perfect. In our experience all our idols have feet of clay, and how much clay goes to make up their lower limbs determines whether or not we feel we can support them despite their flaws.

They may well fail some or all of the “character” test, but in all probability so do many around them, including their opponents. Politics is a murky and unpleasant business some of the time, and certainly it is currently. Uneasy voters are left trying to parse which candidate’s program they feel more comfortable with, while holding their nose and voting for one or the other. We could devoutly wish that future choices will be more edifying.

And as for sexual assault and rape? If proved, the perpetrator should be punished, whoever they are.

But the key word in that sentence is “proved”. “There’s no smoke without fire” might well be true, and we will all make judgements based on what we think we know in any given situation, but it’s not a basis on which we can or should conduct public life.

The public life of anyone. Even the Clintons.

  1. carlalouise89 says:

    LOVE it!


  2. carlalouise89 says:

    Reblogged this on Coalition of the Brave.


  3. mlshatto says:

    The collective psyche of the U.S. citizenry seems to have a very conflicted attitude toward the sexual antics of elected officials. I’ve read on more than one occasion that Europeans in general think we are rather stupid and crazy in our obsession with who is doing what with whom. I don’t think it is unreasonable to expect discretion, if not faithfulness, from office holders. And if they are of the preachy, holier-than-thou type, then they sure as heck better keep their own noses clean. Hypocrisy is not becoming in anyone in a position of authority.

    You make an excellent point about the absolute necessity for consent. Trump’s total failure to even consider the question of consent is what makes the tape so disgusting. He was bragging about being a predator. And the way he stalked behind Clinton during Sunday’s debate was creepy and threatening. She has to have nerves of steel to be able to continue with her answers with that menace behind her.

    Bill Clinton is a cad; there is no question about it. Hillary would have been more than justified in throwing him out long ago. That she did not, and instead worked very hard (from all appearances) to keep her marriage together, should impress the Christian “right” more than it does. That is, after all, what they claim to preach. Instead they charge her with “enabling” him. I think she could be as saintly as Mother Theresa and they would still find a way to condemn her.

    In the end what upsets me the most about all of this is that it is a huge distraction from discussion of the issues that really matter. What does each of them plan to do to combat climate change? Does Trump have any comprehension of what suddenly pulling out of NAFTA would do to global economic markets? What steps would Clinton take to resolve the conflict over the Dakota Access pipeline? We’ve gone down the rabbit hole of sex scandal, and meanwhile the planet is burning.


  4. underwriiter505 says:

    A very fair assessment, IMO. Also, IMO, going back into history, it is clear that some of our greatest Presidents in office were not perfectly chaste. Prior to about 1970 or so, we all understood that, until suddenly a whole lot of people decided at once that a man’s behavior in bed (it was all men then) was a predictor of his behavior in office. I would concede that maybe it ought to be, but strangely, it doesn’t seem to be. FDR. JFK. Likely many others.

    I frankly would like to see more attention directed at something like this –


  5. darthtimon says:

    America’s relationship with sex in general is muddled and confused in a manner which goes way beyond politics. The sexualisation of women is everywhere, from TV to magazines, and everything inbetween, yet a woman can’t breastfeed in public without being called disgusting. It’s a culture of contradiction that stretches across all walks of life.


  6. Pat A says:

    Excellent article – did I miss that Ms Lewinsky, from reporting in the broadsheets, later transpired to have had two previous affairs with married men? If so, it seems that she at least was not taken advantage of, and I bet that Bill relies on his charm to get his wicked way with women. .

    I do find the apparent desire of men in power to demonstrate it by taking sexual advantage of just about anyone below them really repellent. There was a recent article in the UK (it appeared on Have I Got News For You, I think) about how a third of parliamentary researchers have had unwanted sexual advances made to them – and they were all male. Seems to be everywhere!

    Am off to watch an uplifting video of people selflessly rescuing animals to restore my faith in human nature!


    • Wendy says:

      Everything I have heard and read indicates that Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky had a a consensual affair . Lewinsky was not a child and had previous affairs with married men. It seemed that of the two, Bill was the one who attempted to draw some lines not to be crossed in some feeble attempt to somehow tell himself he was less guilty of a full blown betrayal of Hillary…that did Lewinsky who wanted more and more…This does not absolve him but puts her role in more of a perspective..
      Who knows what expectations Hillary had nor what the ground rules were in their marriage. “Keeping the big dog on the porch” may have been a goal which had been missed in the past.. and discussed with promises given and admonishes accepted with acknowledgements that it was politically dangerous as well as not acceptable or excusable if it had ever been in the past.. What compromises or adjustments were made and the strength of a partnership and love through which they both worked to maintain the marriage ..we all do not know. It is private and personal as are most marriages.
      . . Bill Clinton did not brag of “conquests” or “rape” ever…as far as anyone has alleged or testified to….. and there has been nothing proven beyond several consensual affairs.There have been allegations …(fewer than about Trump )

      As for Hillary’s condemnation of or expressed scorn for someone who was a willing participant in an affair that embarrassed and hurt her and her family( including her husband)..especially when HC wanted to believe that her husband would neither indulge in such risky marital cheating while President and jeopardize so much (including the issues they had worked for years as well..)…well, she is, after all, only human and I for one could not expect her not to be hurt and then angry, upset and disgusted and express it …and yes, towards her husband’s emotionally immature and irresponsible partner in an affair.. with her husband! How many women do you know who would be gracious and understanding towards “a Monica ” in those circumstances? I suspect NONE.


      • Stephen Yolland says:

        I agree with every word of that, Wendy. People are far too quick to judge all sorts of things, and you put your points very well.


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